if 50% to be averaging of marriages end in divorce isn't it incumbent upon us to figure out a way to do it better 50% that's half of them don't we have to figure out a better way of doing it

that's laura wasser renowned celebrity divorce attorney and managing partner of Wasser,

Cooperman, and Mandels.

Breakups are going to be hard no matter what, but legislatively, administratively, financially,

there has to be a better way of doing it.

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private

companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization

and help the country's most ambitious and committed welfare owners do the same for theirs.

In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond

to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

I sat down with Laura Wasser to discuss navigating the media in high pressure and high-profile cases,

what it takes to become the go-to attorney for the most discerning clients,

and why a good outcome isn't necessarily one that makes

everybody happy. What is a good outcome is to people that actually may not be the best of friends,

but have a certain level of respect for each other and understand the terms of the agreement that

they reached that they came to on their own, not that was taken out of their hands and made by some

judge that doesn't know them of their kids. Neither one of them is thrilled with it, but they both

can live with it. And they didn't spend a ton of money on legal fees. Almost everybody that comes

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