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🗓️ 15 June 2021
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We’ve been told that the more we move, the more calories we will burn but today’s guest is here to explain why this way of thinking is wrong. Dr Herman Pontzer is an evolutionary biologist who researches how our deep past shaped the way our bodies work today.
Over the past 20 years, Herman has conducted ground-breaking research across a range of settings, including pioneering fieldwork where he lived with the Hadza hunter-gatherers in northern Tanzania. The Hadza are considered one of the last hunter-gatherer tribes in the world and provide a unique insight into the way we used to live.
In our conversation today and in his new book, Burn: The Misunderstood Science of Metabolism, Herman reveals his findings that despite the fact that Hadza men and women get between five and ten times more physical activity every day than most women in the USA or Europe, their total energy expenditure – the amount of calories they burn – is the same.
Exercise does not increase our metabolism. Instead, we burn calories within a very narrow range: nearly 3,000 calories per day for men and 2,400 calories for women, no matter our activity level. In fact, our metabolism - the way our body burns energy – affects every aspect of our biology from our pace of growth, reproduction and ageing to our weight and health. If we burn more energy in one area, our bodies will adjust by spending less energy in another. But all this doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t exercise. Far from it. Herman explains why movement is essential for humans.
We also discuss what the real paleo diet looks like and how many of us have been seduced into expecting every meal to be mind-blowingly tasty. Finally, Herman describes what it was like living with the Hadza and shares the lessons he learned from observing this ancient way of life. This is an enthralling episode and I hope you enjoy listening.
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0:00.0 | Even if you're more physically active, you're getting more exercise every day, |
0:03.1 | you're getting more physical activity every day. |
0:05.1 | That doesn't necessarily mean that you're burning more calories every day than someone who's |
0:10.4 | more sedentary than you. I think that we need to be honest with people. |
0:15.9 | I think that that's the best public health message is one that's going to be |
0:20.3 | accurate to the science. And I think the science says that exercise by itself is not a very good |
0:26.8 | way to last for. Hi, my name is Rongan Chasji. Welcome to Feel Better Live More. |
0:40.4 | Hello, how are you doing? Thank you for joining me on my podcast. Today's guest is a researcher. |
0:48.5 | Who I've been following for a number of years and facts is a researcher who I reference quite a |
0:53.8 | bit in my last book Feel Great Lose Weight, which was all about taking a sustainable and compassionate |
1:00.0 | approach to health. You see, we've been told for many years that the more we move, the more calories |
1:06.4 | we will burn. But this week's guest is here to explain why this way of thinking is simply not true. |
1:13.2 | Dr. Herman Ponser is an evolutionary biologist who researches how our deep past |
1:18.7 | has shaped the way our bodies work today. And over the past 20 years, Herman has conducted |
1:25.7 | groundbreaking research across a range of settings, including pioneering fieldwork where he lived |
1:32.1 | with the HATSA hunter-gatherers in Northern Tanzania. Now, the HATSA tribe are considered one of the |
1:38.4 | last hunter-gatherer tribes in the world and really do provide a unique insight into the way |
1:45.0 | that we used to live. In our conversation today, and in Herman's brand new book, |
1:50.4 | Burn, the misunderstood science of metabolism, Herman reveals his findings that despite the fact |
1:56.8 | that HATSA men and women get between five and ten times more physical activity every day than |
2:04.1 | most men and women in the USA or Europe, their total energy expenditure, which basically means |
2:11.2 | the amount of calories they burn each day is the same. You see, his research is showing that we |
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