191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)
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šļø 31 May 2026
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| 0:14.2 | The world we're in is one where AI companies are building the equivalent of nuclear power plants, |
| 0:19.1 | and we just had our first case where when we upgrade the plant, a nuclear bomb also falls out of it. You say, uh-oh, this has some implications. |
| 0:26.0 | Are we in a world in which we're essentially saying that a bunch of voluntary good guys |
| 0:29.7 | build these amazing weapons and then they just choose not to release them, but nobody can tell them |
| 0:34.2 | what to do? We're entering an era where you actually need to do serious coordination, |
| 0:38.0 | including between governments, to keep having all gas, no brakes. |
| 0:42.2 | It's not sustainable to keep this going. |
| 0:44.7 | We have to figure out that coordination, both within the industry, |
| 0:48.5 | and maybe more importantly and more challengingly, with China. |
| 0:52.2 | If everyone gets access to it, you're now rolling like a whole bunch of loaded dice with |
| 0:56.4 | the lives of people around the planet. |
| 0:58.1 | We have to somehow force a larger conversation on what do we want to do with this technology |
| 1:02.5 | and how do we want it to be developed. |
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