Marsha and Saga here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

The problem is politicians will never serious about it. I've worked on areas around trade adjustment

assistance for decades. The only time if ever really comes up is when politicians want

to talk about trade adjustment assistance and getting a trade agreement through. There's

really not much to it. It's not really helping people. If we really wanted to help people,

we could reach back to when America did this on a grand scale. Think the big land

graph colleges started in the 1860s. Think about the GI. That's the scale of the intervention

we need. What we had from politicians right and left, both sides of the aisle, is it

more bladder than the others than real action?

Saga, you are nearing the end of your move. This is what we can get into you. The final

episode where it's just me solo for the foreseeable future. I spoke with Glenn Hubbard. Glenn

is the or was the Dean Emeritus of Columbia Business School. Before that, he was actually

in charge of the Council of Economic Advisors in the White House during the George W. Bush

administration. This is an interesting episode because we heard the audience response. You

wanted us to engage more with populism and debates around it. Go back to our roots a bit.

And Glenn is coming at it from an interesting perspective. He is part of the unreformed,

free market conservative right with his critiques of how populism approached things, his critique

of how things were done under the Trump administration, and what needs to be done moving forward.

But once again, we're not expecting just to hear the usual. He comes at it from an interesting

perspective. He cites FDR with the GI Bill. He cites Lincoln establishing land grant

colleges. So we have a different perspective on how we should actually go with change,

even if he isn't a populist himself. But Saga, this is where we'll get you on 2022.

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