#190: Steve Duncker, former Chairman of NYRA – One size doesn’t fit all
How Leaders Lead with David Novak
David Novak Leadership
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🗓️ 6 June 2024
⏱️ 46 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to How Leaders Lead where every week you get to listen in while I interview some of the very best leaders in the world. |
| 0:10.5 | I break down the key learning so that by the end of the episode, you'll have something simple you can apply as you develop into a better leader. |
| 0:17.8 | That's what this podcast is all about. |
| 0:20.2 | My guest today is Steve Dunker. He's a former |
| 0:22.7 | partner at Goldman Sachs and the former chairman of Naira, the New York Racing Association, which |
| 0:29.4 | operates the three largest thoroughbred horse racing tracks in the state of New York. And that |
| 0:35.0 | includes Saratoga, where they'll be running the prestigious Belmont |
| 0:38.9 | Stakes this Saturday. Now, let me tell you, Steve's had quite the varied and successful career, |
| 0:44.6 | in large part because he's got this uncanny ability to learn quickly and make smart investments |
| 0:50.5 | and smart decisions. But in all those various situations, he's learned that you can't |
| 0:56.7 | rely on just one leadership playbook. You've got to be able to adapt your style to suit the situation |
| 1:02.8 | and the people you're leading. And Steve's got a lot of great insights into how you can do just |
| 1:08.1 | that. He's also got some amazing stories you have to hear or to believe. |
| 1:13.0 | So here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours, Steve Dunker. |
| 1:24.7 | You know, I can't wait to talk about your career at Goldman Sachs and NYRA, but first, I want to take you back to the beginning. |
| 1:33.3 | What's a story from your childhood that shaped the kind of leader that you are today? |
| 1:38.6 | That's a good question. I think to some extent it was the first business that I was involved in. And it happened with my |
| 1:46.3 | lifelong friend, Ted Levis and I, we started a business resurfacing driveways, charing driveways in |
| 1:51.5 | St. Louis. And one of the things that happened is when we decided to go into that business, |
| 1:57.0 | that we had to do a lot of things that took capital. We had to be able to go buy a truck that |
| 2:03.1 | would carry 55-gallon drums of tar. And what I did realize early on is that nobody's going to do |
| 2:09.7 | that for you. You're going to have to go find the truck, find the money for the truck, find the |
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