So hello everybody. I'm really excited to be here with Deakin Enoch.

Deacon Enoch is of course an Ethiopian Christian, Tawedo Christian.

He also has a YouTube channel called The Philosophy of Art and Science.

So you can look that up and find him.

He's also on the Ephesus Network where he is doing several things with different types of Orthodox discussions

and everything. So I'm really excited to have them on because we're going to talk, you know,

people can't get enough of talking about Ethiopia and the particulars of their traditions.

And so we're going to go into that together.

Okay. their traditions and so we're going to go into that together. This is Jonathan Pajot. Welcome to the symbolic world. Thank you so much, Jonathan, for having me on the program.

I'm really happy.

You know, it's funny because when I know, I mentioned that on the podcast, I said, you know,

I kind of said for people to reach out if they wanted to, I mentioned that on the podcast, I said, you know, I kind of said for people to

reach out if they wanted to, I got so many messages suggesting you. And then I realized that

even that before that, I actually got messages from people suggesting you. Like the first time,

the first moment we did, the first video, I had people talking about you.

But I get so many messages that sometimes it just becomes like noise that I don't, I can't

totally pay attention to. But then when I, after I asked that, then I remembered, I said, I think,

I think many people have been suggesting him for a long time.

It's so funny that you said that because I've gotten a few people to comment. And, you know, they think if I

just reach out that it will happen, but the podcasting world for people to know behind the curtain,

it doesn't always work like that, especially when you have a large following the way that

you've said. And I've actually been following your work for years. And I know you were surprised

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