191 - Gauthier Pierozak - The Lost Symbolism Archives

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 824 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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In this episode I interview Gauthier Pierozak about the amazing work he’s done to rediscover and share the lost work of the 20th century French symbolist, Louis Charbonneau-Lassay. Charbonneau was a Catholic archaeologist who also collaborated with René Guénon, but remained dedicated to approaching symbolism through primarily a Christian lens. He was particularly interested in how all of the natural world - plants, animals, minerals etc. - participate in symbolically representing different aspects of God. Gauthier reconstructed Charbonneau’s book, The Vulnerary of Christ, which was translated into English. He also made publicly available many of the previously lost notes of Charbonneau: -French archives of the work of Louis Charbonneau-Lassay: https://www.archives-charbonneau-lassay.org -Gauthier Pierozak on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gauthierpierozak/ Books: -The Vulnerary of Christ: The Mysterious Emblems of the Wounds in the Body and Heart of Jesus Christ: https://www.amazon.com/Vulnerary-Christ-Mysterious-Emblems-Wounds/dp/1621386767/ -The Bestiary of Christ by Louis Charbonneau-Lassay: https://www.amazon.com/Bestiary-Christ-Louis-Charbonneau-Lassay/dp/0140194495/ -Le Bestiaire du Christ (A.M. BX LIVRES) (French Edition): https://www.amazon.com/le-bestiaire-du-christ/dp/2226149058/ Further reading: -Article on The Symbolic World blog: Some Observations on Louis Charbonneau-Lassay’s “The Vulnerary of Christ”: https://thesymbolicworld.com/articles/some-observations-on-louis-charbonneau-lassays-the-vulnerary-of-christ/ Original video: https://youtu.be/LfCKVnQMe8g ==================== Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

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0:00.0	So hello, everybody. I am here with Gautier-Pierre-Ozac. Gautier is a lover of symbolism,
0:06.8	you know, very fascinating person in himself. And he went on a very, a really exciting journey
0:12.7	to dive into and discover the works of Louis Charbonneau Lace. Many people don't, if you might
0:19.7	not know about him, he was an early 20th
0:21.7	century symbolist, very important influential, but because of the war and because of many things
0:27.6	that were happening around him, some of his work got lost and some of it got forgotten.
0:33.0	There is an English version of his main work that we know about, which is the best area of price,
0:38.2	a highly edited version. His French version is quite longer and more is fuller. And Gautier
0:44.5	is now involved in a new publication called The Vulnerary of Christ, in which this is Chabonot's
0:51.7	work on the symbolism of the five wounds of Christ and just how universal
0:56.6	they are and how extended that language kind of becomes in Christianity.
1:00.3	And so it's a very fascinating book to be published right now, a very important one.
1:05.0	And so I'm really looking forward to diving into his discovery of Chabano and also the work itself.
1:11.6	This is Jonathan Pajot. Welcome to the symbolic world. And so Gautier, maybe you can start off very simply and tell us how you became interested in the work of Michel Bonneau Lace.
1:48.5	Yes, thanks for inviting me to your podcast.
1:56.1	I've been very interested in symbolism and Christian symbolism in particular since I was very young.
1:59.8	I was introduced to this through the fact that I lived in France.
2:05.8	I lived in a little tiny village with a church that was over a thousand years old. And there were symbols engraved on the outside of the church.
2:10.2	And of course it started my curiosity and I kept, you know, there's a lot of people who were along the way who advised me to read which book and that book.
2:20.8	And over the years, I was becoming more interested in the bigger aspect of symbolism.
2:27.6	It's not just limited to Christianity.
2:31.0	It's just the way I'm looking at it, it is a language based on intuition. You use symbolism when you cannot express with words, some concept that are just divine. And the best example, and I'm going to bring that back later is the concept of infinity. Our brain cannot comprehend infinity.
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