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Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired at FBI Profile

Reformer New York City Prosecutor and Current, producer and writer on Criminal Minds.

And today with me is...

Laura Richards, I'm Criminal Behavioral Analyst, I'm also a K-Fan Director of Paladin,

the National Stalking Advocacy Service and Author of the Dash Risk Model.

And I'm Lisa Zambetti, I am the casting director for Criminal Minds where I work with Jim,

he writes and I cast for Killers, Victims and Everything in Between.

And it's so good to have the band back together.

Welcome back.

Laura.

Thank you, I had a great time in London, it was pretty busy.

I made a lot of progress against people who would stock and commit violence against people

and women in particular.

Absolutely.

And we're very grateful to Lily Allen for speaking out.

And I spent a lot of time thinking about her situation and her case and it was very brave

for her to speak out.

And of course, that then led to a number of other issues in terms of what the police said

to her, saying that she put other victims at risk, which is utter nonsense.

And she was very brave speaking out on News Night about it.

So unless people do stand up and have advocates who help them understand the system,

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