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Hello and welcome back to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired at BI Profiler

in former New York City prosecutor as well as writer and producer on Criminal Minds.

And I am Lisa Zambadi, I am the casting director for Criminal Minds where I work with Jim Clemente

and you know what, we just got our season 12 pickup. We're pretty happy about that.

Thank you for being fans of that show as well. Or Richard is not with us here today but she will be back shortly and we will continue to be giving commentary on Real Crime.

So today we're going to continue with answering listener questions and first one I want to address is from I'll just say the initials are EK and this listener I wanted to thank us for the podcast and also share something that has been on their minds when they have listened to our podcast.

So they were talking about hearing all of our agony about justice not being served for Nicole and Ron in the OJ case but they said this at any rate my thought is for a black juror any black America weighing the scales of justice.

On the one side you have two brutally slain white people who lived a rarefied life of privilege on the other you have legions of murdered and brutalized brothers sisters mothers fathers sons and daughters dating back generations that continues right up till today no black American escape the legacy of trauma violence and systematic the valuation of their lives.

So this small group of representatives of black America received the unlikeliest of all unlikely powers to spare one black body and thereby give proverbial finger to the whole white criminal justice system who has and continue to inflict such grievous damage to their people as horribly under serving as OJ was being saved.

I do understand the possible motivations okay well I get what you're saying and I will I would like to respond to a couple of things here first of all the justice system is not white law enforcement is not white they may be majority the people in it may be majority white but they're certainly tens of thousands of law enforcement officers.

I would say more like hundred you know I think there's 500,000 law enforcement officers in the United States there's at least one or two hundred thousand that are non white so to say that it's a white justice system I think is a fallacy.

I do think that that African Americans and other minorities have been discriminated against it's a matter of record it's horrible and I certainly don't condone any of that.

But the flaws in the system are the individuals who exploit the system to take out their biases or their ignorance on people that don't look like them don't act like them don't behave like them.

So I think the fact it'd be nice if you could put this into a black and white issue it'd be nice if you could so carefully pigeonhole it but unfortunately that's just not accurate and it's not the case as I said before on you earlier podcast with human behavior it's incredibly diverse and unfortunately some people don't like the diversity of other races of other cultures of other ways of looking at things.

But that is not and I can definitely say this it is not the rule that is an aberration it doesn't happen by every single person and certainly not the only people that are doing things bad against African Americans or minorities are not white.

There are plenty of black on black crimes it's a horrible thing and it's more a social situation than it is a racial situation it is typically situations in which there are drugs and poverty and lack of services and all sorts of negative pressures on people's lives that make them act to their extreme.

So I think that's a very stress does kill and it kills other people too and I think that is more what is going on when you're talking about crimes in very poor or very violent neighborhoods.

Again, doing this if this is what actually happened if what this listener has actually said was the African American community basically giving the finger the proverbial finger to the white justice system.

I think it's still just as much of a shame it's still just as much of injustice to the victims of that crime and it is sad that what I believe happened in this case was Johnny Cochran was able to manipulate the public into believing that this trial was all about a race issue when it was about the brutal murders of two people.

The last thing I will say is although Nicole may have become a wealthy white woman living the life she certainly was taken advantage of she was beaten she was terrorized by O.J. Simpson she did not live you know a incredible, rarefied life of privilege.

She led a haunting life under the thumb of O.J. Simpson and Ron Goldman was a young guy nice guy did a lot of volunteer work wasn't wealthy by any stretch of the imagination but he did have access to people who were.

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