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19. The HALO Trust

Battleground

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🗓️ 16 December 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

On this week's Battleground: Ukraine, Saul and Patrick speak to James Cowan - a decorated former British Army General who is now the CEO of the HALO Trust, the charity which removes dangerous ordnance left by war. He tells us how the war has impacted on HALO’s ability to carry out its work in Ukraine, as well as the effect it’s having on humanitarian efforts elsewhere in the world. The latest big news stories are discussed including the news that the Pentagon has given Ukraine the green light for drone strikes inside Russia. Producer: James Hodgson Twitter: @PodBattleground Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah. Hello and welcome back to Battleground Ukraine with me, Patrick Bishop and Saul David.

0:50.6

Well, there's not much going on on the battlefield this week.

0:55.0

And the big news, really, is that the Pentagon has given Ukraine the green light for drone strikes inside Russia, also that it's fast-tracking the delivery of Patriot missiles,

1:02.6

which could be used against the waves of incoming missile attacks. The Russians are launching

1:08.9

against Ukrainian infrastructure. We'll also be discussing reports

1:12.0

that British special forces are active inside Ukraine and that Russia is running out of men.

1:17.6

Our guest this week is James Cowan, the decorated former general in the British Army, who is now

1:22.3

chief executive of the Halo Trust. That's the charity which removes dangerous ordinance left by war.

1:29.1

Later, James will explain how the war has impacted on Halo's ability to carry out its work in Ukraine,

1:34.5

the effect it's having on humanitarian efforts elsewhere, and how the West should go about

1:39.1

winning the peace in terms of reconstruction. But first, let's talk in more detail about these latest news developments.

1:46.3

Probably the most interesting is a US defence source telling the times that the Pentagon

1:51.1

has, quote, given a tacit endorsement of Ukraine's long-range attacks on targets inside

1:57.9

Russia after President Putin's multiple missile strikes against Kiev's critical

2:02.7

infrastructure. Now, this is a contradiction of the official Pentagon line thus far, something

2:07.8

we were actually talking about ourselves last week, which was that America was neither

2:12.3

encouraging nor condemning such attacks. But it also implies an emboldening of the US position, which up until this

2:21.0

point has been to discourage attacks that might escalate the war in the direction of nuclear weapons.

2:26.6

Yeah, I think it's hugely significant. And the source has confirmed the last point you just made,

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