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🗓️ 16 June 2022
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| 0:00.0 | So welcome to the rest of his politics question time with me, Alistair Campbell. |
| 0:13.0 | And me, Rory Stewart. |
| 0:14.0 | So Rory, we're getting close to into the four figures of questions every week. |
| 0:19.0 | Where do you want to start? |
| 0:20.0 | Okay, so there was a good question I thought, which I haven't got right in front of me, |
| 0:24.0 | but it was a question about Macron and Ukraine, which I think caught your attention. |
| 0:28.0 | And I think the question was, as far as I can understand, are we being too soft on Macron? |
| 0:33.0 | Obviously you're a fan of Macron, but there's an argument that actually he has misplaced it, |
| 0:39.0 | and that his policy towards Putin has been naive. |
| 0:42.0 | I saw that. It was a guy called Ned Lam, and it did catch my eye. |
| 0:46.0 | Am I too soft on Macron? Possibly. |
| 0:49.0 | Macron didn't have a great week with the elections, not yet sure whether he's going to get a parliamentary majority. |
| 0:54.0 | He won the elections in one level. He's going to get the most seats, but whether he gets a majority. |
| 0:58.0 | And I do think on the whole Jupiter thing. |
| 1:01.0 | I think when the war started, Macron possibly thought that he could bring his charm |
| 1:07.0 | and his intellectual firepower to bear with Putin. |
| 1:10.0 | He could maybe push him more than he has. |
| 1:12.0 | If you remember, he got quite a lot of grief constantly having these very long phone calls and so forth. |
| 1:18.0 | And then he said these things, which really annoyed the Ukrainians. |
| 1:20.0 | He said that, you know, Putin must be humiliated, must be finding a good way out. |
| 1:24.0 | He then said it should be at least 20 years before the Ukrainians are allowed into the EU. |
| 1:28.0 | We shouldn't bend the rules, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. |
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