So welcome back everybody to the Cosmic Skeptic podcast. Today I am

joined by the one and only genetically modified Skeic, real name of course, Drew McCoy, now arguably

the biggest channel in YouTube atheism, unless we count people like TJ Kirk, but I think I don't think he's as

watchable current channel I just wanted to start by saying I'm not bitter

about it as well I don't care that you overtook me in subscribers.

We can still be friends. Yeah I would have talked to you not just for the clout but

just for the just for the conversation exactly but congratulations on to passing half a

million subscribers the first of our niche to do it.

I wonder what you attribute that success to. I mean you've done pretty well.

Recently you've had a lot of videos that are doing very well and I wonder if there's a kind of

formula that you're following that's been working recently or what you think it's

down to. I would say the number one thing is that I purposely attempt to do quite the opposite of what I think the majority

of atheist youtubers did before about 2017 or so. there are tons of other atheist

youtubers who have done what you and I have done which is try to stick to

the to the issues try to stick to a a kind and compassionate way of speaking but not necessarily pulling punches in our

arguments. I think before there was a lot of outrage baiting and there still

is but I think that outrage baiting and demeaning people that atheists have been hurt by in the

U.S. primarily was the primary goal with atheist content for so long. The fact that I try to do the exact opposite

of that really means that I'm reaching a market that has been underserved.

And what is the goal of the channel? A lot of people

compare us. We're in a very similar niche. Some people even confuse us for each

other. This is probably the first time that they've seen real hard evidence that

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