I'm sitting there, my eyes bawling in tears, looking at Gary, screaming at me like he did every night.

And that night, when everything like when pitched black silence, saw my mind label that was moving and

then going suffering being instead of asshole Gary suffering being my heart broke

and I'm like wow we're all like that.

I don't want everybody to be like that.

They're broken, they're hurting.

So I started crying and then he stopped yelling.

And I, first time ever, he stopped yelling.

And he's like, Hector, you okay? And then quickly my stupid mind began to say, oh,

would take advantage because he thinks you're crying because he is yelling too much.

That's not why you're crying, but pretend that he upset you so I can stop yelling.

My normal way of thinking kicked back in, but I saw something that pierced the matrix of

the illusion that we live in that night and that stayed firm in my mind like nothing else has stayed really in all the years.

Hey friend, welcome back to the Light Watkins show.

I'm Light Watkins and I interview ordinary folks

just like you and me who've taken extraordinary leaps

of faith in the direction of their path, their purpose, or what they've identified as their

mission in life, and in doing so they've been able to positively impact and inspire the lives of many

other people who've either heard about their story or who

witness them in action or people who have directly benefited from their work.

And today I'm in conversation with a gentleman by the name of Hector Marcel.

Hector has trained in Tibetan Buddhist philosophy and meditation since 1996 and he's been integrating Eastern methods

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