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The Realignment

187 | Greg Lukianoff: The Second Great Age of Political Correctness

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The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Greg Lukianoff, President of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) and co-author of The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, joins The Realignment to discuss the differences between debates over political correctness in the 80s/90s and today, how “PC” is different from “wokeness,” and how speech fights play out on college campuses. Marshall and Saagar’s Book’s of the Year Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/lists/marshall-and-saagar-s-realignment-2021-books-of-the-year Subscribe to The Realignment’s Substack Newsletter: https://therealignment.substack.com/

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0:00.0

Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

0:08.0

The history of the terms liberal correctness is really fascinating. I think that they've

0:11.0

backed in 20s or at least the 30s and in sort of socialist communist circles. It was a way of sort

0:17.0

of making fun of being excessively politically doctored air. That's what it meant, the idea of being

0:23.8

and they would make fun of their people on their own side for being like, you know,

0:26.8

London says it's true, that's ridiculous, you know, like, so PC was originally a term

0:31.5

point by people on the left making fun of their own side. And it means excessively doctored air,

0:35.9

but it's about people forget this.

0:44.3

Hope everyone had a really merry Christmas for those who celebrate,

0:47.7

to everyone else. Happy holidays. See what I did there. We're speaking about a topic which is

0:52.4

related to the discussion of happy holidays versus Merry Christmas. We're speaking with

0:56.8

Greg Likionov, the president of the foundation for individual rights in education. Otherwise,

1:03.0

known as fire, he is the co-author of the co-blink of the American mind. How good intentions and

1:08.3

bad ideas are setting up a generation for failure. Greg's team at fire reached out because he's

1:14.5

recently written an article called the second grade age of political correctness. It's about how

1:19.8

PC culture in the 1980s and 1990s actually didn't decline in fall contrary to the popular tale.

1:25.9

Instead, it went underground and he's arguing it's back. Now, everyone knows, especially

1:30.8

longtime listeners that soccer and I are traditionally avoided. I think that's a good way to put

1:36.3

avoided culture war debates. But as we go further and further into the show, we're nearing your three

1:41.1

here. Got another six months to go. We're finding that we just cannot ignore this issue. So whether

1:45.1

it's these speech debate controversies that blade into campuses, online spaces, workplaces,

1:51.2

just saying that we're not going to deal with it just isn't going to work at us horribly. So we

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