Hi, I'm Natalie Jill, fat loss expert turned high performance coach.

When odds are stacked against us, how do we shift and create everything from nothing?

How do we level up when we aren't feeling it yet or we've had a big setback?

On this podcast, I'll be talking to some of the most inspiring and courageous men and women on this planet who, at their

worst, learned how to achieve success greater than they ever dreamed possible, leveling up and

creating everything from nothing. Today on leveling up, I've got Taise Givesens, and I'm excited to chat with her today. I met her from a mutual

friend, and I just thought such a timely story to interview right now because Taise, she is the

founder and creator of a personal development school, and many of you listening have ventured

into personal development, whether it's attending classes or reading or

listening to things. But I wanted somebody on that actually founded a school around this because

she founded this after her herself was going through some incredibly tough times in her life.

So Tais, thank you so much for being here today. Thank you so much for having me. Very excited to be here.

So you have it all together now. You're super attractive. You're successful. You are helping so many

people. But I realize that's not always who you were. So take us back. Who were you several years back?

What was going on in your life? Yeah. So for me, I originally started as an athlete and was very determined as a young

kid to sort of get a soccer scholarship and honestly to leave home. And the sort of core reasons for this

were that there were a lot of underlying unresolved traumas that had sort of gone on in my home space.

And I think I was sort of looking for an escape and in my junior year just

before my junior year of high school which is sort of your scouting year for these sorts of things

um I had a knee surgery and had a bad injury and you know started taking painkillers as a result

and got really hooked on the painkillers themselves and I didn't't even really understand what addiction was, to be honest. I was so young. And I just knew like, wow, life is so much easier to operate when I'm feeling this way. And so let me ask. I don't want to, I don't mean to interrupt you or cut you off, but this is really a critical thing here because there's such an epidemic right now with paink pain killers. Like it's such a thing. But some people never get addicted. Some people really do. Like how did you know you were getting addicted to them? Because was it just taking away the pain or were you feeling a high from it? What was happening that that even happened? Yeah, it's a great question. So for me, I first obviously was prescribed them for the surgery. And I started realizing, wow, this makes life easier. And I don't think I realized how much subconscious pain I was carrying the entire time. And, you know, these sorts of realizations came much later. But I sought to refill them. And then I had a girl who was a year old with me come to me and say, oh, well, these are amazing performance enhancers. So like when you're trying to get back into your, you know, get back and sort of recoup everything from surgery, this is a great thing to do. Now, mind you, like this person also ended up selling them to me. And so I'm sure there was like more different story. Yeah. So young and naive. And I just knew they made me feel better. and then I started getting them from me. And so I'm sure there was like more different story. Yeah. So, I was so young and naive. And and I just knew they made me feel better. And then I started getting them from her. And, and so basically I think, and something I really pushed to sort of share the message about is that it's, you know, the issue isn't the issue. The painkillers are like a symptom of underlying subconscious, unresolved emotions, traumas,

things that were storing in sort of our perceptual worldview. And so for me, I had no idea

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