184. Ellen Greenberg Update Part 2
The Prosecutors: Legal Briefs
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🗓️ 25 October 2025
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We conclude our look at the latest report in the Ellen Greenberg case. Was this a suicide? Or does Pennsylvania owe the Greenbergs further investigation?
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Alice and I'm Brett and this. Just one thing real fast, as people we've given you the conclusion, we'll go ahead and do the rest of this. |
| 0:39.1 | Just one thing real fast, because people mentioned, how do we know she made the searches? |
| 0:42.7 | Okay, look, maybe there's somebody out there who thinks this was a premeditated homicide that Sam, like, thought this through and for some reason decided to plan the murder of his fiance in this manner, |
| 0:58.0 | this really weird manner to try and make it look like a suicide. So for reasons that are unclear, |
| 1:03.3 | because there's no reason he couldn't just leave and literally just break it off and leave, |
| 1:06.5 | right? I mean, he's not married to her, she didn't have his money. There's really like, |
| 1:09.9 | there's none of the things you typically see in like a murder type situation. Maybe there's people who believe that. I mean, he's not married to her. She didn't have his money. There's really like, there's none of the things you typically see in like a murder type situation. Maybe there's people who believe that. I think most people think if this was a murder, it was like an abusive, heated, domestic thing. He started out strangling her. Maybe she grabbed a knife. He got away from her. He stabbed her. She died. Oh, my God. Now I got to cover it up. Right. Most people think that. Well, that indicates he wasn't making suicide searches on her computer before to make it look like she was going to commit suicide. That's the first thing. The second thing. On the documentary, and this is when you know people are reaching. They're just like, oh yeah, you could fake searches later on. |
| 1:45.2 | Not really. I mean, you can try, but any forensic investigation of the computers is going to |
| 1:51.7 | reveal, number one, when those searches happened, number two, that you tampered with the computer. |
| 1:56.4 | So that didn't happen. They didn't fake them later, and he didn't fake them before, unless you have a very strange view of how this went down. |
| 2:05.3 | She was depressed. She was anxious. She had searched for suicide, and you can't discount that when you're thinking about the case. |
| 2:14.0 | Yeah, I think that's right there. And one other thing that I think is really noteworthy here. We say this in all these cases when we're trying to figure out if someone has snapped or not. We talked about this and went this, Memphis 3, if there was some sort of triggering event there. So we've heard about all these grades. And like many of you, and maybe like Sam, too, I'm kind of like, why are we so stressed out about these first grade grades? |
| 2:34.7 | And also just general stress about school doesn't really resonate with me until I saw the text |
| 2:40.0 | message that she had with a friend just about an hour before Sam leaves the apartment. |
| 2:44.4 | I thought this was really interesting because I do think it brings to the forefront of the mind |
| 2:48.2 | that like she is thinking about grades and school right when this is all happening. |
| 2:55.0 | It is not something that was just generally stressful for her, but it was within the hour of her dying. |
| 3:00.5 | And let me just also say this before you start reading these. |
| 3:04.7 | The timeline is important here. |
| 3:06.5 | If you've seen the documentary, the documentary is like, |
| 3:09.0 | this could have happened much earlier. It could have happened as early as when they got home and gave |
| 3:12.7 | him a lot more time to cover it up, et cetera, et cetera. The documentary conveniently ignores these |
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