183. How to Love Our People Bigger & Better with Bozoma Saint John

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

1. Hard-won, joyful, practical wisdom from Bozoma’s exuberant life, and her lessons on how to overcome after enduring excruciating loss. 2. How big love and life can be when we are brave enough to be fierce and tender. 3. The rarely talked-about confusion and fear that often come with pregnancy. 4. Why love isn’t enough — and we all deserve a community surrounding our love. 5. Why Boz gave her husband a book report assignment before she’d go out with him, and the heart wrenching truth that you can carry anger toward a loved one even after death. About Bozoma: Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame inducted Marketing Executive, author, entrepreneur, and general badass. In 2021, Harvard Business School published a multi-media case study written about her career, titled “Leading with Authenticity and Urgency”. And Bozoma’s highly-anticipated memoir, THE URGENT LIFE, is available now. Bozoma’s brilliant career has spanned various industries and included roles as Global CMO of Netflix, CMO of Endeavor, CBO of Uber, Head of Marketing of Apple Music & iTunes and Head of Music and Entertainment Marketing at PepsiCo. Bozoma’s work has been lauded and awarded with notable recognition including inductions into the American Advertising Federation Hall of Achievement, Billboard’s Women in Music Hall of Fame, the Marketing Hall of Fame; and has been included in The Hollywood Reporter’s Women in Entertainment Power 100 list and crowned as The World's Most Influential CMO by Forbes. By far, her greatest achievement is raising her 13 year old daughter, Lael. TW: @badassboz IG: @badassboz

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0:00.0	We're here.
0:11.0	We are here.
0:12.0	Welcome.
0:13.0	We're here.
0:14.0	We can do hard things.
0:15.0	I don't think we've ever had an episode that was based on a love story, and this is
0:21.1	a love story today.
0:22.5	This is a love story about a woman and her husband, about a woman and her daughters,
0:31.5	about a woman and life.
0:35.2	And as Bose knows, because I read the urgent life for the first time months ago, and just
0:42.1	texted her immediately and said, holy shit, I learned so much, and I couldn't wait to
0:48.6	have Bose on the pod to talk to our pod squad, because I feel like what we try to talk about
0:54.6	constantly is just how to love and live deep.
0:57.6	How do we just suck the marrow out of life, and this is what Bose shows us.
1:02.3	We hear all the time that the harder and deeper and truer, you stay close to truth.
1:09.6	We're scared of that because it hurts so bad, but that is what it takes in order to experience
1:14.0	the highs of life, and Bose does both.
1:16.8	Yeah.
1:17.8	Introduce Bose, Abby.
1:18.8	Bose, Emma St. John is a Hall of Fame inducted marketing executive, author, entrepreneur,
1:25.6	and, in our opinion, just a general badass.
1:28.8	Bose, Emma's brilliant career has included roles like global CMO of Netflix, CMO of Endeavor,
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