This episode of Reasons to Be Chirphal is brought to you by the newsmeeting from Podimo and Tortoise.

This is a new podcast that I'm really excited about. It is a brilliant idea.

In each episode, you hear three journalists pitching their idea of what the most important story of the week is.

And this is basically what happens every day in every newsroom in the world.

And you get to be a fly on the wall. It is heated, it's competitive, it's informed, it's passionate, it's funny sometimes.

You're going to love it. So they're pitching to James Harding, who hosts the podcast and makes the decisions on what leads, what follows, and in what order.

And he is the real deal. He's the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Tortoise Media.

He used to be director of BBC News and the editor of The Times before that.

So he lives and breeds this stuff. And it is just fascinating to get to look under the bonnet of a newsroom at this kind of level.

In case you didn't catch the name at the beginning, it's called the news meeting.

And you can listen wherever you get your podcasts and follow the feed for new episodes every Friday.

This is Raisins to Be Cheerful with Edmilly Band and Jeff Lloyd.

We're extremely excited to talk to our cheerful person this week.

I'm excited because he's just this beloved poet, writer, performer, broadcaster, who has written an extraordinary memoir of his battle and recovery from Covid.

It's called many different kinds of love. I think Ed, you are excited because of just how much credibility this is going to give you with your sons.

Definitely. He's not just Michael Rose and he's a meme.

I'm going to try and do it and I'll do it badly, but nice. That's the basic punchline to the meme.

We'll get the critique from Michael. Hello, by the way, Merkel.

Hello. Yes, I'm feeling very nice.

Are you a man or a meme at this point?

That's a difficult one. I'm not quite sure. Man or meme reminds me of something 19 years old.

No, he's adverts. Yeah, I think I'm probably a man, but in many places it does seem as if I am a meme

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