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I break down the key learning so that by the end of the episode, you'll have something simple, you can apply as you develop into a better leader.

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Well, I don't know about you, but today is one of my favorite days of the year, round one of the Masters Golf Tournament at beautiful

Augusta National Golf Club. And to mark the occasion, I've got a very special guest today,

professional golfer and defending master's champion, John Rom. I've spent a lot of time

with John, and I got to tell you, this is one great guy, and I admire him very much for the type of

professional he is and the family that he is raising and his devotion to his wife, Kelly. He is the real

deal. He's honest. He's direct, and as you'll hear today,

he understands the power of making clear decisions and then being accountable for them. He doesn't

play the blame game with anybody. He takes accountability. Decision making is a big part of any

leader's job, and if you want to get better at it,

keep listening because there's a lot to learn from John today.

Plus, you know, we've got some great golf stories,

including a little sneak peek into how he's been preparing for this year's master's. So here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours, John Ruff.

Thank you. with my good friend and soon to be yours, John Rob. John, it's great to have you back on the show.

It's great to be back.

First time we did this, it was a little bit ago already.

It was a long time coming.

It was just before the U.S. Open.

And now you're kind enough to do was just before the U.S. Open. And now you're kind

enough to do this just before you defend the Masters. And you're the only European, by the way,

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