#181: Believing the Victims of "Leaving Neverland"

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

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🗓️ 17 April 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti continue their discussion about the victimization of Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck and talk about warning signs for spotting predators targeting children.

Find out what Jim has to say about the FBI investigation into Michael Jackson. Health warning: this episode may be triggering. Please don’t stay silent in the face of abuse and violence. There are many specialist services that understand what you are going through and can help.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music.
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0:07.8	The couple days prior to the abuse starting.
0:12.9	He started touching me just in the sense of like, pan on my leg, lots of hugs, kissing
0:18.4	my forehead, rubbing my hands.
0:20.5	So there had been this kind of development of physical closeness that was happening already
0:25.0	that felt like a father, but just felt amazing.
0:29.6	As Michael started doing these sexual acts, he started talking to me about God brought
0:34.8	us together.
0:36.6	We love each other and this is how we love each other.
0:39.3	We love each other and this is how we show each other our love.
0:43.2	What was your intent?
0:53.2	Why did you want to tell this story?
0:56.6	The intent arose out of an opportunity which was my accidental discovery of Wade and James,
1:04.6	Wade Robson and James Safe Chaku.
1:08.1	I read about as the plaintiffs in a civil suit against the Jackson Estate.
1:14.3	So here were two young men who claimed that as children they had been sexually molested
1:18.5	by the singer.
1:20.5	It seemed to me here was an opportunity to try and find out if these guys had something
1:25.3	true to say, whether they were genuine and if they were genuine, perhaps there was a
1:30.7	way to finally delve a bit deeper into this controversy that had lasted for so long.
1:37.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.
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