No one told me that while I'm resting the brain actually

Doesn't go on the back burner. It doesn't turn itself down. It is not resting at all

That is when you get the most work done. It's almost like the minute

is you resting, you don't even have to fall asleep for this. You could just, you know, sit back and

look out of the window or close your eyes for a second. The minute that that happens, it's almost like the

brain goes, oh, finally some peace and quiet. Let me quickly get some work done. Oh, they're

trying to do things again. Okay fine I'll wait. The So I want to set the context for the conversation. I first heard our guest,

Nikolaina, on another clubhouse room with Avi and she was talking about dreams and how you can tap into your dreaming and how that is connected to creativity and being protective and it just really turned me on.

But the thing that she was talking about

was when we're listening to other people

and interpreting their dreams,

it's very important for us

to not to insert our own interpretation

of what those objects and symbols mean.

And I was just thinking, that's exactly what you're supposed to do when you're listening to people.

Just forget about dreaming for a second.

Forget about interpretation and any kind of woo-woo-woo thing that you might be thinking about right now, but just how do you have... forget about

interpretation and any kind of woo-woo thing that you might be thinking about right now,

but just how do you have better interpersonal communication skills,

how do you listen to your clients,

don't make assumptions about what you're hearing or seeing.

This is really important. Okay, so without

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