#179: Profiling "Leaving Neverland"

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2019

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti analyse Dan Reed’s documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’ and Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck’s account of child sexual victimization.

Find out what Jim has to say about the FBI investigation into Michael Jackson. Health warning: this episode may be triggering. Please don’t stay silent in the face of abuse and violence. There are many specialist services that understand what you are going through and can help.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:07.0	Secrets will geek you up. You feel so alone? I want to be able to speak the truth.
0:15.0	As loud as I had to speak the lie for so long.
0:31.0	I mean this was just the most magical thing I'd ever seen.
0:37.0	And that first night Michael took us on a little bit of a tour and he said to me and my sister,
0:45.0	you can stay in one of the guest rooms or you can stay in here with me if you want.
0:49.0	And my reaction was, of course, I want to stay with you.
0:53.0	We had one more night that way.
0:56.0	The myself and my family were going to leave and go on another kind of vacation to the Grand Canyon.
1:01.0	I was devastated to leave Michael. Michael was devastated for me to leave. He actually sobbed.
1:09.0	So you got to stay? So I got to stay. And so it was just Michael and I.
1:13.0	Never landed for the next week. And your parents allowed that?
1:16.0	My parents allowed that. Within even the first or second night of Michael and I being alone at Neverland,
1:24.0	the night started changing.
1:26.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.
1:28.0	This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CVS is Criminal Minds.
1:35.0	With me today is more Richard's criminal behavior analyst, former New Scotland yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
1:44.0	And I'm Lisa Zambéli and the casting director for CBS is Criminal Minds.
1:50.0	Yeah, everybody's sighing. Right.
1:54.0	You know, today we're going to be talking about a documentary that has really taken the world by storm.
2:01.0	It's an HBO documentary called Leaving Neverland. And I am just still shaking from watching it. So why don't you go ahead.
2:13.0	Yeah.
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