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The Rest Is Politics: Leading

179. President Stubb: Trump’s Unlikely Best Friend

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

Goalhanger

News, Government, Politics

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

How did President Stubb’s golfing talent lead him to fostering a close relationship with President Trump? Why was ‘Prime Minister’ the worst job ever? Why will the Global South define the new world order?  Rory and Alastair are joined by Finland’s President, Alexander Stubb, to answer all this and more.  Search IG.com to find out more and/or Look for IG in your app store. Join The Rest Is Politics Plus: Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content – including Rory and Alastair’s miniseries – plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith  Producer: Alice Horrell Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

receive a weekly newsletter, join our members chat room and gain early access to live show tickets.

0:09.4

Just go to therestispolities.com. That's therestispolics.com.

0:15.8

Listen, it's great to have you here. Thank you so much for giving it to your time.

0:23.6

Let's just start with your childhood. Growing up in Finland, what your parents did, what your life was like, and whether you ever imagined that you'd have the life that you've had.

0:35.6

The short answer is no, but life was good when I was young.

0:39.1

So I grew up very much in a bilingual family.

0:42.2

So I spoke Finnish with my mother and Swedish with my dad and Finnish for my younger brother.

0:46.7

The two languages have nothing in common.

0:49.2

I started in a Finnish school and switched over in fourth grade to Swedish school

0:53.1

because my left wing in my

0:54.3

ice hockey team was in the Swedish speaking school. So of course I had to make the academic

0:58.8

decision. I wasn't an academic kid. I dreamt about becoming a professional ice hockey player

1:04.0

and later on a professional goal. And your dad was big in ice hockey. Yeah, he basically managed a team

1:08.4

and he was the head of the Finnish Ice Hockey Federation. And then in 1983, he became the head of the National Hockey League Central Scouting in Europe.

1:15.9

So all the European players that play in the NHL in the US and in Canada kind of go through him.

1:21.4

So we were very much a sports family, if you will.

1:25.0

And I didn't get my academic awakening until I started studying

1:28.8

in the US. And I did my military service like all Finnish men at the time. But, you know,

1:34.8

very much a regular Finnish type of background when I was a kid, quite international still.

1:41.6

And your first visit to America then was when you were in your early teens

1:44.7

yeah I was actually 13 our ice hockey team sold matchboxes from door to door to you know

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