Hello, I'm Helen Tuffer and I'm Sarah Ellis.

And you're listening to the Squiggly Careers podcast where each week we talk about a different topic to do with work and discuss practical ideas and actions to help you find your way through our increasingly squiggly world of work.

And this week we thought it would be interesting to explore the topic of transitions for two different reasons.

Generally, in squiggly careers, it's no surprise that we're all experiencing loads more transitions than ever before.

And I think lots of different types of transition as well, whether that's transitioning between different teams internally, perhaps from one department to another.

Perhaps it's transitioning how you work in terms of perhaps you work a five day week and you'd like to

transition to work a four day week. We're transitioning between industries, between different

sizes of company. And so I think it's one of those things where we're all going to have to get

really good at it. And when we start to dig into some of the research and some of our ideas today,

it is also hard.

So it's kind of one of the things that is hard and important.

I feel like I've said that quite a lot over the last few weeks in various different workshops we've been doing.

It's all really hard, everybody.

We just want to try to help you.

This is both hard and important.

So a good topic for us to think about. And I think this year has obviously been unique in lots of

ways and particularly it has thrown at us lots of unexpected transitions, whether it's the majority

of us who are working from home. I think we're all working differently, even if you're not working from home. And perhaps we're being forced into transitions maybe

because our jobs are changing. Even our roles might be at risk of redundancy. Perhaps you've

even been made redundant. And I do think, as we're going to talk about transitions today,

there's transitions that you're in control of. So transitions that you perhaps

are thinking about, are planning for, and there's kind of transitions that are out of our control.

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