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What Came Next

178: [SWW Presents] S24 E25 Case & Community Updates - 12/18/2025

What Came Next

Broken Cycle Media

Documentary, Education, True Crime, Society & Culture, Self-improvement

4.4627 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

*Content Warning: fraud, harassment, catfishing, stalking, sexual abuse, troubled teen industry, childhood abuse, and institutionalized child abuse.

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*Sources:

-Baker, Jennifer. “Doula Defrauder Kaitlyn Braun Will Return to Court in May for Sentencing Submissions.” CTVNews, 7 Mar. 2025, www.ctvnews.ca/kitchener/article/doula-defrauder-kaitlyn-braun-will-return-to-court-in-may-for-sentencing-submissions/

-Beattie, Samantha. “Judge Calls Woman a ‘danger,’ Sends Her to Prison after Faking Pregnancies, Defrauding Ontario Doulas | CBC News.” CBCnews, CBC/Radio Canada, 10 June 2025, www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/kaitlyn-braun-sentence-1.7556327

-Reese, Tiffany. “Season 18.” Something Was Wrong, Broken Cycle Media. https://somethingwaswrong.com/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Thank you to Bull and Branch and MintMobile for sponsoring this episode. Hi, friends.

0:27.1

I'm excited to bring another case and community updates episode to your feed.

0:32.4

I'm very excited to be joined by Amy B. Chessler, who is an associate producer on Something Was Wrong,

0:39.3

the host of our other podcast, What Came Next, as well as Season 7 Survivor.

0:46.8

And Lauren Barkman, who is our social media manager.

0:52.1

You may recognize her from Season 20 as well. Thank you guys so much for

0:55.8

joining us again and being willing to do this. Super excited to be here. Thank you as always for having me.

1:02.7

And Lauren, I know you're a little sick. Yeah, I'm hanging in there. We appreciate you being here.

1:08.0

Thanks for having me. Of course. I'd love to hear from you guys. How is your

1:12.5

Thanksgiving? What's new with you guys? It's just a busy time of year. In light of the

1:18.4

impending holiday season, I think I'm filled with immense gratitude for the ability to be here,

1:24.2

for the ability to do the work that we do, and for the ability to be part of this

1:28.1

small but mighty team. We're always working. I mean, like, what's going on is just like

1:33.1

work and seasons, incredible interviews and survivors and the event and just an overwhelming

1:39.3

sense of gratitude. I have a lot of exciting things behind the scenes going on that I'll be able to announce

1:45.6

in the new year. And my 41st birthday is coming up. So I feel excited about that. I didn't really feel

1:51.7

like celebrating my birthday last year when I turned 40 with the loss of my aunt. I think grief was my

1:57.2

emotion that year. So this year is gratefulnessness and you guys are a large part of that.

2:02.4

I couldn't agree more. I feel like this team is just absolutely incredible in so many ways.

2:08.0

Gratefulness is just the reoccurring word right now because it's all hit me at once,

2:12.0

just how amazing it all is. Your business is growing. You're getting new clients. You're really thriving, I feel like, this year. Yeah, it's definitely been a busy couple months. But I'm taking in all of the holiday festiveness. And we just put up our tree today. So that was fun. Oh, my goodness. What kind of treat? Is it a real tree or do you guys do a fake tree or like what's going on over there?

2:35.8

It's a fake tree.

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