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The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast

178: Street Data: A Pathway Toward Equitable, Anti-Racist Schools

The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast

Jennifer Gonzalez

Education, Teaching, Instruction, Classroommanagement, Educationreform

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Many well-intended efforts to make schools more equitable often fail because we're trying to make them work inside a system that's a terrible fit for them. What's been missing is a whole-school approach that creates a path forward that is radically different from what we've done before. In this episode, I talk with the authors of the book Street Data—Shane Safir and Jamila Dugan—about their ground-up approach to school transformation, one that lets go of the fixation on text scores and centers marginalized voices instead.

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Thanks to CommonLit and ISTE for sponsoring this episode.

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Find Shane and Jamila online at shanesafir.com and jamiladugan.com.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Jennifer Gonzalez welcoming you to episode 178 of the Cult of Pedagogy Podcast.

0:06.2

In this episode, we will be talking about an approach to making schools more equitable

0:11.0

that is dramatically different from what we have tried and what has failed in the past.

0:16.8

The approach is called street data.

0:30.5

We're living in a time in history when awareness of educational inequality has risen to what

0:35.8

seems like its highest point ever, and many good resources have emerged to help us attack

0:41.4

the problem from multiple angles. Antibias training, book studies, restorative practices,

0:47.7

culturally responsive teaching, improving representation in our classroom materials,

0:53.2

the list goes on. Unfortunately, many of these resources only chip away at the problem,

0:59.2

and many are only being consumed by individual teachers or served up as one-off trainings

1:04.8

whose impact ultimately fades after a period of time.

1:09.1

These efforts, while well-intended, often don't make enough of a difference because we're

1:13.7

trying to make them work inside a system that's a terrible fit for them.

1:18.9

What's been missing is a whole school approach, something that completely shifts our focus

1:24.3

and creates a path forward that is radically different from what we've done before.

1:30.0

Earlier this year, a book came out that I think fills that void.

1:34.6

It's called street data, a next-generation model for equity, pedagogy, and school transformation.

1:42.0

Written by Dr. Shane Sefeer and Dr. Jamila Dugan, the book outlines an approach to school

1:46.8

improvement that focuses on a completely different kind of data analysis.

1:52.2

Instead of looking at grades and test scores, attendance and graduation rates, the street

1:57.1

data method looks at data from the ground up, where educators and school leaders act as

2:02.7

ethnographers to gather stories, artifacts, and observations from the margins.

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