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The Doctor's Kitchen Podcast

#178 Prescribing Fruit & Vegetables with Jonathan Pauling

The Doctor's Kitchen Podcast

Dr Rupy Aujla

Medicine, Healthy Eating, Improving Health, Food And Lifestyle, 868329, Healthy Recipes, Doctor's Kitchen, Mental Wellbeing, Nutritional Medicine, Lifestyle, Mindset, Dr Rupy, Wellness, Health And Wellbeing, Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Health Goals

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2022

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Pauling is chief executive of the Alexandra rose charity, whose vision is for everyone to have access to healthy and affordable food and whose mission is to give families access to fresh fruit & vegetables in their communities.


I hadn’t come across the charity before, but our values are so aligned! It was founded in 1912 by Queen Alexandra and established to support Londoners in poverty. Inspired by a priest in her native Denmark selling roses to raise money for those in need, Queen Alexandra brought the idea back to the UK.


In a landmark study that started a few months ago, they are trialling rose vouchers that are exchangeable for healthy fruit and vegetables from street market vendors in deprived areas. This latest trial is on the back of years of work across other areas in the UK and pilots where they’re also involved in cooking workshops and healthy start vouchers for families with young children. Something that Johnathan mentions on the podcast today really hit home to me. He said we can’t just tackle financial inequality, we have to tackle health inequality.


And from previous schemes they’ve already demonstrated that simply increasing fruit and vegetable consumption can lead to improvements in energy, digestive health and reduced the reliance on processed foods. That isn’t to say this is a cure-all for poverty, but it’s definitely something we should be looking at to “level up”.


I’ve wished for the ability to prescribe healthy food and this study could pave the way for that reality.


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0:00.0

Dr. Skitchie, recipes, health, lifestyle.

0:05.0

And she said, you know, I drove here and he was in the back of the car and he started, you know, getting really upset and angsty and I was in a rush.

0:13.0

So I grabbed a piece of packet of criss from the front seat and I chucked it over the back to him and he sat in the back seat and calmed him, quieted him down.

0:21.0

And he came in the buggy through this door and as soon as he got here, he handed me the crisps and he went straight for that set-summa and the director of Public Health said, yeah, I saw him do that.

0:33.0

I saw him do that and she said, I've got an older son who's nine years old, he was never part of this project. He would never do that.

0:40.0

He said, my this one, this one is a veg and fruit and veg advocate.

0:44.0

He advocates for fruit and veg. He asks me, where's the fruit and veg file in the snack or in this meal. He talks about fruit and veg all the time.

0:52.0

My older son never does because he never had access to this project and I turned to the director of Public Health and said, by the way, I didn't pay this kid to do that, right?

1:00.0

Nothing to do with me. He did that all on his own.

1:05.0

Welcome to the Doctor's Kitchen podcast. To show about food, lifestyle, medicine and how to improve your health today.

1:17.0

I'm Doctor Rupi, your host. I'm a medical doctor, I study nutrition and I'm a firm believer in the power of food and lifestyle as medicine.

1:29.0

Join me and my expert guests where we discuss the multiple determinants of what allows you to lead your best life.

1:43.0

On a previous episode of the Doctor's Kitchen podcast, you may remember me chatting with Professor Guy standing about universal basic income.

1:52.0

This was at the height of the pandemic. Furlough is in full swing and the concept of a guaranteed minimum salary was gathering pace.

2:02.0

Having that discussion made me think about the possibility of prescribing fruit and vegetables in the NHS or on the NHS.

2:13.0

The concept wasn't warmly received by Professor Guy for reasons that we all discussed today, but I'm pleased to say that it could actually become a reality.

2:23.0

Jonathan Pauling is chief exec of the Alexandra Rose Charity, whose vision is for everyone to have access to healthy and affordable food and whose mission is to give families access to fresh fruit and vegetables in their communities.

2:39.0

I can come across the charity before, but our values are so aligned. It was founded in 1912 by Queen Alexandra and established to support Londoners in poverty.

2:51.0

Inspired by a priest in her native Denmark selling roses to raise money for charity for those in need, Queen Alexandra brought the idea back to the UK.

3:02.0

Real roses were substituted for silk ones and rose day was created. The funds raised from the sale of those roses was distributed to help Londoners in poverty access health care.

3:15.0

Today their focus is on the issue of food poverty. And in their landmark study that started a few months ago, they are trialing rose vouchers that are exchangeable for healthy fruit and vegetables from street market vendors in the UK.

3:31.0

This latest trial is actually on the back of years of work across other areas in the UK and pilots where they're also involved in cooking workshops and healthy start vouchers for families with young children.

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