Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the Be There in Five Podcast on Kate Kennedy, your host.

Today we're going to talk about what I think is a really fascinating sector of the Internet.

In the fascinating sector of the kind of self-help guru, kind of self-improvement type influencer,

but more so than the Rachel Hollises of the world that pander toward growth hacking and growing

your business and almost like the more boss-babe angle. I want to talk about people who are influential

in the space of or sell a commodified form of essentially what is the law of attraction,

of people who like coach and teach others about how to manifest the life they desire.

And specifically not the people who do this in a well-intentioned way, because I am not saying

that the law of attraction isn't valid. I think there's a lot of validity to steering where you

stare and we'll get into my windy, confusing spiritual commentary later. Rather, people who

exploit this sort of unknowable abstract concept in favor of their personal profit and use their

own personal anecdote as a means to project onto the population that if it works for me, it can work

for you too. In a way that can be dangerous or detrimental to a person that's in a vulnerable

position. And that's typically who they're praying on, right? But the weirdness for me comes in

where like, I'm not an expert on this. Like, I'm not a power manifestor. I'm not like a high

priestess or like, I don't know. I'm just interested in this and I don't know how to talk about it.

And I feel incredibly dense. Like I'm speaking out of turn, kind of criticizing something that I

maybe don't understand in full. But then part of this that's important to me too is like,

well, your average passer by your average audience member that's absorbing this kind of content

consistently. Like, my opinion is valid too. And like, what I glean from it. What I glean from it

is a confusing combination of like delusion privilege, hope and inspiration. And I don't know how

to reconcile those things. And you know, I call this manifest density not because I hope people

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