Welcome back to the three men we've college basketball podcasts.

Another weekly episode reverberating in your eardrums. Right now in the intro, I am your host, Jim Root.

I'm only joined through the Magic of Zoom by Kai McEwen. Kai, how are you? Jim, I'm doing great.

Where's Matt? Where's our friend Matthew Cox? Matt has done the unthinkable and crawled back to the man.

He needed some funds in this long, sad offseason of college basketball.

I guess I understand it.

I have contemplated doing the same.

Matthew is unavailable for our potting right now.

He will hopefully be joining us for the guest later on this episode.

Get to that in a second.

But for now, we are going to give Matt a lot of shit during the roundup, during the intro, if that's our plan.

Yes, it's funny.

Matt goes right for the job that requires a lot of hours.

He doesn't go for a 40 hour per week job. He goes right

to the consulting world, right back to the consulting world, working 80, 90, 100 hours a week. He just,

he just loves the grind, Jim. I think he really gets him, you know. He did write an article on

our website called Glory in the Grind about student managers. So we know he

gets a rise out of that. He's a binger. He wants it all or nothing. We do have a wonderful

episode though. We are going to be joined by one of the favorite guests from our 24-hour marathon

rave reviews. Mike O'Donnell, Twitter, M-O-D-4-3. He is a former NC State and UCF

Guard, now a broadcaster for ESPN, most known for doing American games, but he dabbles in other

conferences. So we're going to get into some COVID-related stuff with Mike. We wanted to bring

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