#176: Overvaluing 1st round picks & The best cutters, screeners, dunkers and more...
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🗓️ 12 February 2023
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Who are the best players at the “other” skills? We discuss under-represented skills like cutting, screening and more, nominating some of the NBA's best in each category. But first, we revisit the Suns-Nets trade through the lens of first-round pick value, looking at the historical data on trades involving big names in exchange for multiple first round picks. With @codyhoudek. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball
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| 0:00.0 | Speaking basketball podcast, my name is Ben. Welcome back to another episode and Cody after coming off a dizzying trade |
| 0:19.8 | deadline week where we talked about it last episode the balance of power |
| 0:25.0 | is potentially shifted in the NBA all the all-stars play in the Western |
| 0:29.5 | conference now. We were talking after that show and got a lot of comments from people about our |
| 0:39.9 | reaction to the Kevin Durant trade to the sons and specifically my take that that or my |
| 0:49.7 | feelings that Phoenix didn't give up enough that it was kind of an under pay if you will |
| 0:55.8 | and the thing I was really focused on was the players the players moved in that |
| 0:59.6 | trade so today with the all-star break coming up and the all-star selections just being |
| 1:07.2 | finalized and things like that we do want to talk about some alternative |
| 1:11.3 | awards to give to players we do want to get into some |
| 1:14.0 | NBA superlatives if you will. We'll talk about that later in the show but to start |
| 1:19.7 | with we really wanted to revisit this idea of like trading draft picks and why I actually |
| 1:25.4 | don't think that's valuable or that why that's not necessarily that valuable in |
| 1:30.3 | some instances and one of those instances was the Durant trade with the sun so that's where we kind of have some work to do to start today's show. |
| 1:40.0 | Okay, because you talk about the player side of it. I feel like the reasoning that some people might have that it was a much more fair trade that you might think is how other people value the players that were traded, specifically |
| 1:53.7 | McHale Bridges and Cam Johnson. I think McHale Bridges is kind of like this. |
| 1:57.5 | People are like, now that he's going to be unleashed, people are going to see. This is the |
| 2:00.6 | real McHale Bridges. But I don't necessarily think that you think that way he didn't come up as an actual all-star in our conversation. |
| 2:07.5 | Is that sort of where you think the disconnect is coming from? |
| 2:10.0 | I think the first disconnect is historically when you trade an MVP level player |
| 2:16.8 | it's very hard to get equal value so teams are trying to recoup value |
| 2:21.1 | teams are trying to get 40, 60 cents on the dollar, and it's a miracle if you can |
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