I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

It's Veronica Valley.

Welcome back to the Soberful podcast.

We are getting closer and closer to the Soberful retreat,

two whole days online with Chip and I.

Please join us.

We would love you to be there.

It takes place at the very end of April, the 28th and 29th.

Please go to soapful.com to sign up.

We are going to be doing what's the kind of fun things, stuff that we've been doing with clients

for years, different exercises, discussion. And we hope that you would leave after two days

with a breakthrough, with a shift, with just feeling a bit different. But places are filling

up. So please go to sooppa.com to sign up for that. I have a great interview

for you today. It's with, oh, it's such a sweet man. I really, really liked him. Brian Cuban.

I'm going to tell you all about him in just a second, but please check out his book, The Ambulance Chaser.

I really like to support people in recovery in their artistic endeavors. And he's really written a

great thriller that I think you guys are going to enjoy. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Soberful

podcast. I really am looking forward to today's interview. Someone who I have really kind of just

followed in the recovery sobriety scene for many, many years. I'd like to welcome to the Soberful podcast,

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