Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Mormon Stories podcast. I am your host for today John Dillin

It is March 16th

2023 and we are super excited to have back on Mormon stories kind of a legend and a world leader in

understanding cults and in helping people

Break free. We have with us Dr. Stephen Hassan. Hey Stephen. Welcome to Mormon Stories Studios

Thanks John. It's so great to be here and nice to meet you in person. Finally. Yeah, I picked you up at the airport last night

And it's been fun to get to know you a little bit. Yeah, and we went for a latte and the Starbucks woman called you out in me too

Called us out. Yeah, so I'm getting Steve a latte and the woman's like are you John Dillin?

That was like embarrassed. Yeah, and then she looked over and she says wait. Are you Stephen Hassan?

It was really funny. I think there's probably like three people at all of Utah that would be old identifies both only because

We run in different circles sometimes, but that was really fun. Yeah, we snapped some selfies. So that was fun too

So it's been an honor to bring Stephen Hassan here to Utah

We've wanted to have him come for a long long time. I'm gonna just do a quick little intro about a couple things

And then we're gonna jump in today's episode is gonna be all about Stephen's story

So tomorrow we're gonna have him back to talk about his work with cults and with people leaving cults and then with people

Trying to heal and grow from having bitten cults or high demand religions

But just to give you a quick couple things about Stephen the book that we brought him on to discuss before

The book that I think if there's one book you read from Stephen

I'm gonna recommend it's this one

Combatting cult mind control the number one best-selling guide to protection rescue and recovery from destructive cults

Stephen is the founder or the author or the originator of the bite model

behavior information thoughts and emotions which is a really valuable way

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