What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from NDHackers.com, and you're listening to the

IndieHackers podcast. On this show, I talked to the founders of profitable internet businesses,

and I try to get a sense of what it's like to be in their shoes. How did they get to where they are today?

How did they make decisions, both of their companies and in their personal lives, and what exactly makes their businesses tick? And the goal here, as always, is so that the rest of us can learn from their examples and go on to build our own profitable internet businesses. If you've been enjoying the show and you want to support what I'm doing here, you should leave a review on Apple Podcasts. It's a great way to help others find the show, and I really appreciate it. In today's episode, I sat down with Aileen Learner, the founder of Enterviewing.io. You might remember I spoke with Aileen last year about how she turned her idea into a landing page, which generated 7,000 signups on its first day,

and eventually turned that landing page into a full-blown company that generated millions of dollars and revenue. And then COVID-19 hit, and hiring basically stopped for a lot of Aileen's customers,

which meant her revenue plummeted to near zero. And so in this episode, Aileen and I discuss how exactly that went down, what it feels like

to be a founder whose worst fears actually come to fruition, and what she's been doing to cope

and build her company back up.

Enjoy the episode.

When did you first start taking COVID-19 seriously?

Not as a founder, but just as a human, an ordinary

citizen?

I don't really want to admit this, but I guess I will. I mean, I didn't take it seriously.

I hope I don't regret this, but we were in this unenviable position where we had a new

employee starting literally on the day that San Francisco went into quarantine.

And, you know, he emailed, he's like, hey, did you guys know this is happening?

Like, what should we do?

And I remember thinking, we should just ignore this.

This is bullshit, right?

Let's just have them.

Everybody should be at work.

Make me money, peons.

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