What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com, and you're listening to the Andy Hacker's podcast.

On this show, I talked to the founders of profitable internet businesses, and I try to get a sense of what it's like to be in their shoes.

How did they get to where they are today? How did they make decisions, both of their companies and in their personal lives, and what exactly makes their businesses tick? And the goal here, as always, is so that the rest of us can learn from their examples and go on to build our own profitable internet businesses. One of the things that makes this show possible is that we're in the middle of an explosion in the power of the individual. You can set out on your own, build something cool, get rich, and change your life, quite frankly, without really needing a whole bunch of other people to help you out or a whole bunch of investors to invest in what you're doing, because there's so many tools now that just give you more leverage than ever. I mean, you can do this without even knowing how to code. And if you do know how to code and you know where to look and which tools to

use, you just have insane amounts of power and leverage. My guest today, Primate Hoyetsky,

is a great example of this. He's embracing artificial intelligence in ways that I don't think

most people realize are possible for the solo indie hacker. And hearing a story just

gets me really excited about how much you can get done as a solo founder and what the future

holds for Andy hackers. Do you think AI is overhyped, underhyped, or it's at the right

level of hype? So I think it's both in the sense that it's overhyped because it's still not doing

everything like it's supposed to do like it's presented in media right now, especially

if you look at popular media, but it can definitely do much more than we think in general

that it can do.

So I think AI is still in its early days. It only started like 12 years

ago, maybe eight years ago with 2012 and like some competitions around computer vision. And then

it's gaining this momentum when we have better hardware, more data. So actually, it's not hyped enough

for what it will be able to do in a couple of years.

Yeah, I figured you would say it was underhyped because you are super into AI and you're doing

some really cool stuff. From my perspective, AI has always been kind of a big company game.

It's, I think AI, I think Google, I think Facebook opening up these super expensive

research labs and hiring PhDs and spending like tens of millions of dollars to collect

terabytes of data to train their models. And then here you are, a solo founder, indie hacker.

You're not spending a ton of money. You're not taking a ton of time. And so far, you've been

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