173. Death
The Allusionist
Helen Zaltzman
4.7 • 3.8K Ratings
🗓️ 24 March 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
"You can't redead the dead by you saying something shit," says Cariad Lloyd of Griefcast and author of You Are Not Alone; nevertheless when you're bereaved, people still are usually so nervous to say the wrong thing that they often don't say anything at all. And especially not the word 'dead'. Maybe what we need, says council funeral officer Evie King, author of Ashes To Admin, is a "jazzy snazzy term for death, the 'bottomless brunch' of death..."
Content warning: this episode is about death*. And it contains mentions of cancer and Parkinson’s, and there are several category B swears and one category A swear.
*But it’s a pretty fun listen, it doesn't get sad.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This is the illusionist in which I Helen Zoltzman yuck languages young. |
| 0:09.6 | This episode is about death, content warning, death and mentions of cancer and Parkinson's |
| 0:16.1 | and there are several swears of category B and one category A swear. |
| 0:22.2 | But it's a very jaundee episode overall I think. |
| 0:25.1 | Don't you worry, on with the show. |
| 0:30.0 | My dad died four months ago. |
| 0:36.9 | I was working on the episodes about the name Fiona at the side of his deathbed and in between |
| 0:41.7 | part one and part two he died. |
| 0:44.7 | And when people asked me about him and I'd say he's dead or he has died, it feels like |
| 0:49.4 | I'm almost being confrontational just stating the facts. |
| 0:53.6 | Even though it is correct, he did die. |
| 0:55.7 | I saw him do it. |
| 0:57.2 | Do you find that other people are uncomfortable using the word death? |
| 1:00.0 | Because there's a lot of euphemisms around. |
| 1:02.3 | Yeah, and it's frustrating. |
| 1:05.6 | It's really frustrating and it's something that those of us in the death industry are trying |
| 1:09.7 | to campaign against. |
| 1:11.7 | You're also an assassin. |
| 1:12.8 | Yes. |
| 1:13.8 | Oh yeah, I'm as I kill people and then I'm there. |
| 1:16.8 | I'm there for the grief full package. |
| 1:19.1 | I'm Carried Lloyd. |
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