This is the illusionist. In which I, Helen Zoltzman, should have checked languages

labelled before putting it through a hot wash. We'll be departing from the

renaming series for the next three episodes, got death and Eurovision coming up,

but then we'll be back with the renaming after that. But this episode still fits

with the telling other stories theme, so did I break my own series or not? Who's

going to rejudicate this? I guess me? Hmm, I'll get back to me on that. Content

note, this episode discusses the enslavement of African people on with the show.

In the 19th century, you had a lot of doubt about the name of the language if we

should call it Brazilians. Yeah, and there is even like a long period in which

official documents in Brazil kind of avoid it. They dodged the issue and they

use only expressions like the national language not to touch into the the

problem. People up to this day ask me, should we change the name of the language

to Brazil and I answer them, this is not really the most important problem we

have right now. And it's probably too late for that. My name is Caetano Galindo

and I'm a university professor, a teacher, historical linguistics and also a

translator. And welcome back to the show. It's been a while. Thank you very, very

much for the invitation. I love being back here. Caetano talked about translating

the podcast, the memory palace into Brazilian Portuguese on the episode one

to another. And he's just released a new book about the history and present of

Brazilian Portuguese. The book is called Lachinba, which means powdered

Latin and is like a play on powdered milk. Both things sound kind of alike in

Portuguese, but most importantly, the title comes from a song, a song called

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