You know, the 12,000 or 13,000 employees that we have in the

Camping World in the size of the business is nothing more than extra zeros.

The principles behind running a small coffee shop and running a $7 billion business are ultimately the same.

Yes, the product you're selling is different and yes, there's a bigger system

and a bigger infrastructure. But the theories, I think, are relatively the same.

That's Marcus Limonis, renowned investor, serial entrepreneur, and the CEO of Camping World.

And I can think of probably 20 plus deals where I've lost $35 to $40 million. Gone. Never see it again.

And in many cases, to be honest with you, Michael, as I look back in my older self and I look back,

you know, five, six, seven years ago, I would say that some of that was largely my judgment.

Trusting in people that I shouldn my judgment, trusting in people that I

shouldn't have or investing in people that I shouldn't have.

And I'm here to tell you once and for all, I have zero regrets.

Zero.

I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue

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companies in America.

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