Welcome to Tech Policy Podcast. I'm Evan Schwarzenberg. On today's show, the future of

internet regulation. Yesterday, in an event here at the Newseum in Washington, D.C., federal

communications chairman at Jeep Pi laid out a plan to undo so-called Title II. In 2015,

the FCC under Chairman Tom Wheeler reclassified broadband

under Title II of the 1934 Communications Act. These are basically utility style rules designed

for railroads and telephone networks. Then the FCC said this was necessary to maintain

net neutrality and a free and open internet. But the current chairman

Ajit Pye says undoing Title II will actually hashtag free the net. You can go ahead and check

that on Twitter. So does undoing title two really mean the death of net neutrality? Or is this

exactly what broadband needs? Who better to explain this than the chairman himself? I'd love to welcome

to the show. Chairman Ajit Pye,

I know you've got a really busy schedule, so I really appreciate you joining. It is great to be

back on the podcast. And also joining is FCC intern and president of Tech Freedom, Baron Soka.

Baron, thank you for joining the show. Thanks. I was expecting it to be described as a third wheel again.

No, that was mean. I would never say that again.

So, Mr. Chairman, today there's an op-ed circling around the interwebs, as they are, by Senator Ron Wyden from Oregon, Senator Al Franken from Minnesota, and your predecessor, Tom Wheeler, a former FCC chairman.

And the headline says that you want to hand the internet over to big corporations.

I'll just give you a chance to defend yourself first.

Well, first, seven, thanks again for having me back on. The op-ed was an exercise in a hysterical overstatement and flat-out misinformation in a number of different ways.

For example, they mischaracterized exactly how the Internet has been regulated

and lived these many years.

We had light touch regulation from the dawn of the commercial Internet until 2015.

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