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The Ultimate Health Podcast

172: Charlie Hoehn - Play Your Anxiety Away • Find Work That Doesn't Feel Like Work • Intentional Acts Of Kindness

The Ultimate Health Podcast

Jesse Chappus

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4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2017

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Charlie is the author of Play It Away and Recession-Proof Graduate. He's spoken at the Pentagon, TEDx, and universities around the world. Charlie is the Head of Podcast & Video for Book in a Box. He lives in Austin, Texas with his wife and two dogs.

Today we’re talking about Charlie's experience with extreme anxiety and how he cured it primarily through play and switching to a play mindset.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • How he coordinated a huge event for Tim Ferriss
  • The 1:3 sleep to wake ratio
  • Charlie's slow and steady build to debilitating anxiety
  • The various modalities Charlie tried to help relieve his anxiety eg. meditation, supplements, psychedelics, & fasting
  • The book that was the tipping point during Charlie’s anxiety recovery
  • How play completely cured Charlie of anxiety and depression within a few weeks
  • How improv allowed Charlie to embrace what was going on in the moment
  • Adopting a play mindset
  • Children generally fall into one of 3 categories: secure, avoidant, or anxious
  • We can all choose to view the world as a playground and the world tends to respond accordingly
  • How to figure out what types of play best suits you
  • Start by scheduling in as little as 30 minutes of play a week
  • Outdoor sports are one of the best ways to reduce anxiety, especially in men
  • Pay to play
  • Fitting play into the workday
  • It's ideal to find work that doesn't feel like work
  • Finland has up to 2 hours of recess a day
  • Are tracking devices such as Fitbit’s and social media taking away from the play experience?
  • The less screen time you get, the happier you're going to be
  • It's liberating to get rid of stuff - minimalism
  • Finding an environment/location that supports your wellbeing
  • Start smiling and saying hello to strangers on the street
  • Intentional vs. random acts of kindness
  • The more sleep you get, the better your work is
  • The ultimate cheat in life... a 15-20 minute nap

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Related links:

Charlie Hoehn - Play It Away (book)

Charlie Hoehn's website

Follow Charlie Hoehn on Facebook, and Instagram

Charlie Hoehn - Play For A Living (book)

Charlie Hoehn - Recession Proof Graduate (book)

Author Hour with Charlie Hoehn (podcast)

Stuart Brown - Play (book)

Tim Ferriss - The 4-Hour Chef (book)

The Five-Minute Journal

Tucker Max (books)

John Bowlby (books)

Trophy Kids (documentary)

Cal Newport (books)

Move - Daily activity to stay healthy (iOS app)

Napoleon Hill - Outwitting the Devil (book)

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303: Emily Fletcher – Stress Less… Accomplish More, Mindfulness vs. Meditation, Secrets To Manifesting

286: Cal Newport – Digital Minimalism • Create Time For Solitude • Stop Socializing On Social Media

252: Srinivas Rao – Creating For An Audience Of One • Creativity Leads To Happiness • Cognitive Bandwidth

222: Focus Friday – More Play

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Transcript

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0:00.0

And normally I would say let's go meet up talk about how impressive we are the types of work we're doing and instead I said let's go play catch at the park.

0:12.0

Hello and welcome to the Ultimate Health Podcast. Let's go play catch at the park.

0:17.0

Hello and welcome to the Ultimate Health Podcast episode 172. Jesse Chapp is here with Marty Wasserman,

0:19.0

and we are here on a weekly basis to take your health to the next level.

0:23.2

This week our featured guest is Charlie Hone.

0:25.6

He's the author of Play It Away and Recession Proof graduate.

0:29.2

He's spoken at the Pentagon, TEDX, and universities around the world.

0:33.6

Charlie is the head of podcast and video for Book in a Box,

0:36.9

and he lives in Austin, Texas with his wife and two dogs.

0:40.4

Today we're talking about Charlie's experience

0:42.3

with extreme anxiety and how he cured it primarily through play and switching to a play mindset.

0:48.0

So even for the listeners out there who aren't experiencing extreme anxiety, there's something in this one for everybody.

0:54.0

I don't think many of us get enough play in our lives.

0:56.6

You guys are going to love this.

0:58.6

It was great hearing Charlie's story.

1:00.2

It was just very refreshing.

1:01.7

Jesse and I had a lot to take away from this. Play is

1:04.0

super important. Some of the points that we talk about in today's show is

1:07.4

Charlie's anxiety story and how he totally burnt out. The book that was the

1:11.9

tipping point in Charlie's anxiety recovery, we can

1:14.8

all choose to view the world as a playground and the world will respond accordingly,

1:19.2

how to find out what types of play best suit you, and our tracking devices such as Fitbits and

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