172 - Arielle Isaac Norman Knows More Than Dave Chappelle

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Sasha and Stella welcome comedian Arielle Isaac Norman to the show for a refreshing critique of identity, comedy, and societal norms. They talk pronouns, reality, the impact of Trump's win in 2016, and what it means to be politically non-binary.

The discussion emphasizes Arielle's skill in using humor to address evolving dynamics within the queer community, particularly in response to today's political landscape, delivering profound insights with a comedic twist. Arielle brings an informed critique that resonates across the political spectrum, ensuring that her audience finds both laughter and moments of introspection.

Sasha affectionally describes Arielle as an “equal opportunity offender”, promising that this episode delivers a mix of both humor and discomfort certain to spark both conversation and reflection.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.
0:04.4	And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.
0:08.6	And this is Gender, a wider lens, a podcast dedicated to the shifting concepts around gender in our contemporary culture.
0:16.0	Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we seek to open up the discourse around this hot button issue.
0:25.0	Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.
0:30.0	Hi Stella. How are you Sasha, how's it going?
0:34.0	It's going well.
0:35.0	Today was really interesting.
0:37.0	We spoke with a comedian.
0:39.0	She's a national touring headliner.
0:41.0	Her name is Ariel Isaac Norman. And she has a comedy special called Ellen
0:46.2	De Genderless, which is all about gender.
0:49.9	And it's actually shocking and subversive, but also hilarious and surprising in ways that I've not heard other comics really notice or point things out that she is pointing out.
1:03.6	So it's been an amazing conversation.
1:05.6	Yeah, there's a few comedians who's kind of raised their head over the parapet like
1:09.8	Ricky Jervais, Dave Chappelle, you know obviously Graham Linnahan, there's a few of them. But Ariel comes from this actual, she comes from the queer community and she calls it like it is. She's very's very very funny but she still loves the queer
1:24.8	community so she's actually she and she doesn't pull her punches she's a truth teller
1:30.7	she tells it straight but she's also she's a truth teller, she tells it straight, but she's also, she's a millennial, she's from this world and she has an inside information that I think people will really benefit from hearing.
1:40.0	Yeah, and along similar lines, you know, I was thinking, as we were talking yesterday, audience members, no matter where they stand on the political spectrum, no matter what their background is, people are going to find moments that they love and they're so excited about,
1:55.4	and everyone's also going to be offended at some point. She's like, you know, an equal opportunity offender. And I thought that was really refreshing and interesting because we got to hear like you said from a
2:07.8	millennial who's really part of this community who's able to call things out from a really informed place, right? So I think listeners will be really curious to hear
2:16.8	her special, Ellen De Genderless, because you can tell in the
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