Hey guys, I'm recording this here on April 5th. It's Sunday. Everyone's trying to survive the crisis.

Quick note to you guys, we are moving. You know, you used to delay these episodes by, you know,

four to eight months after we recorded them in terms of releasing them on the podcast.

We've changed that. A lot of these interviews you're going to hear over the next many months are

going to be ones we recorded only days prior. We think that's a smarter way to run the show. I've made the change.

So expect more urgent information coming out. Secondly, I am getting destroyed on iTunes reviews

by these people that say Nathan's rude. He's hard hitting. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Which, by the way,

I am. It's part of my style. It's what works. The problem is people that love that style never

take the time to go leave a five-star review. So I only get one-star reviews on iTunes. And right now there's a streak of one-star

reviews that is driving me crazy. It would mean the world to me, guys. If you're loving the show,

you love how direct I am, you like the style, if you go leave a review on iTunes now. If you do that and tweet it to me, text it to me, email it to me, whatever you want,

I'm going to reply with a very special surprise.

I think a lot of you guys will really like.

It is heavy, heavy data oriented.

All right.

So I appreciate that.

Thanks, guys.

Enjoy the show.

Verblio, again, surviving the virus, they've seen $46,000 and paused MRR over the past 30 to 60 days out of their total kind of $460,000 in MRR.

So again, about $6 million run rate right now, helping teams scale their content better with their massive army of writers.

He's applied to PPP. We'll see what happens.

Hello, everyone. My guest today is Steve Pachros.

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