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Mormon Stories Podcast

1714: Leaving Mormonism Because of Racism - Channel Achenbach Pt. 3

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2023

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

Fans of Mormon stories will be familiar with Channel Achenbach, who has been a guest on LDS Discussions' Race & Mormon Scripture Part 1 and Part 2 , Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church with John Larsen and Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church or they may know her from her tiktok channel, @Bettenoir4. This is a 3-part series of Channel’s story.

We’re back for a wrap-up of Channel’s story. Starting from where Part 2 left off, Channel, Margi and John discuss racism in general in the United States, and racism experienced in Utah by Channel and her children in Utah based on their skin color, with even her lighter-skinned children getting treated better than those with darker skin.

Channel finally starts finding her own voice and speaking out about her experiences and observations in the church but with continued pushback from leaders, Channel decides to resign and starts her platform on Tiktok.

We learn where and how Channel is doing now that she's left the Church and found her voice and is finding herself again after all this time.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Warms Stores podcast. I'm your host

0:04.1

John DeLin. It's December 6, 2022 and we are here in part three of a powerful heartwarming

0:13.1

thoughtful and epic Warms Stores interview, three part series with Chanel, Aachenbach

0:20.0

K Chanel. How you doing? I'm doing good. You ready for round three?

0:24.6

Yeah, you're coming back for more. We're like, Hey, if you want to take the night off

0:30.8

and we'll come back another time, you're like, Nope. I'm rocky. Yeah. And of course,

0:35.4

we've got Margie with us again. Hey, Margie, thanks for having shotgun.

0:38.4

Absolutely. So for those who haven't joined us for parts one and two and just stumble on

0:43.4

this, this is part three and a three part series in part one. We talked with Chanel

0:49.2

about her joining the Mormon church as a black teenager around 18 in San Antonio way back

0:56.9

in the day, talked about how she served a mission in the South, just a couple years after

1:02.2

her baptism ended up in Utah. And we got up to kind of her first marriage. She was pressured

1:09.6

into by fellow white Utah Mormons here in Utah and how that didn't go so well. And

1:16.1

a lot of kind of racism and white supremacy that she experienced in those first early years

1:21.0

as a black Mormon. We ended and then came back for part two where she talked about kind

1:27.6

of the aftermath of her first divorce, a disciplinary council that happened within the context of

1:34.3

that first marriage. And then of course, a second marriage to a white man such that her

1:41.2

second set of children were by racial and kind of her experiences as a black woman in

1:47.3

Utah in the Mormon church, again experiencing just way too much racism and white supremacy.

1:54.4

And we kind of focused on white Mormon women in Utah and how they interact with Chanel

2:01.3

and how that was harmful, you know, helpful with air quotes, but also harmful. And we ended

2:07.9

part two with Chanel's second marriage also failing eventually. I guess I shouldn't

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