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Mormon Stories Podcast

1713: Surviving as a Black Woman in the Mormon Church - Channel Achenbach Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2023

⏱️ 127 minutes

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Summary

Fans of Mormon stories will be familiar with Channel Achenbach, who has been a guest on LDS Discussions' Race & Mormon Scripture Part 1, Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church with John Larsen and Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church or they may know her from her tiktok channel, @Bettenoir4. This will be a 3-part series of Channel’s story.

Channel is continuing her story from her marriage, an embarrassing disciplinary council where she is judged for her “sins” by a group entirely of white men, and dealing with the fall-out of a marriage that was ill-suited from the beginning and facing the stigma of divorce within the LDS church as a woman of color. Channel marries again, this time to a non-member of the church and has two children. Despite her husband’s encouragement to leave, Channel continues to seek acceptance and approval from her religion despite her skin color. As she becomes disillusioned over time, Channel manages to stay in because of the influence of a few good friends, especially when her second marriage dissolves, and she finds herself needing more help.

We learn more about issues around race issues in general such as the difference between racism and white supremacy and how both show up in the Church’s doctrines, practices, and members, including being constantly talked down to and told what to do with her life and what to think even by friends over a decade younger than she.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John Delin. It is December 6th, 2022

0:06.9

And we are back for part two of our epic interview with Chanel Ockinbock. Hey Chanel. Hey, welcome back

0:14.7

Glad to be here. And of course we are so thrilled to have Margie writing shotgun. Hey Margie. Hey there. Welcome back. Thank you babe

0:22.4

So if you haven't heard part one

0:25.0

with Chanel Ockinbock pause this episode go back and watch part one. We just shared a tiny short

0:33.3

From Chanel's interview on Facebook and it's already got over 500,000 views

0:39.5

something like

0:41.5

5,000 likes and like 2000 shares

0:45.2

So you're already taking the world by storm Chanel. Uh-oh. How does that feel?

0:49.7

Scary. Just as a recap or for those who are going to be obstinate and aren't going to go back and watch part one

0:58.2

We talked about Chanel growing up in Saint Antonio joining the Mormon Church as a late teenager

1:05.2

How her family wasn't thrilled with that idea? No, but she had several loving Mormon

1:11.8

Individuals and families reach out to her and she joined the church

1:15.1

Immediately almost within a few years she went and served a mission in the South

1:20.2

Yep, right? Yeah, and then ended up in Utah and we talked about her first marriage and

1:28.9

How she was just kind of corralled into a marriage that she probably should have never

1:34.8

even

1:35.7

gotten into but there was a lot of

1:38.5

Utah culture and Utah pressure and frankly a lot of

1:41.9

racist and

1:43.5

kind of cultural

1:45.7

expectations and microaggressions and

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