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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race.

The weekly podcast where we discuss culture, identity, politics, power, and privilege in our pre-post, yet still very racial America. You can say all that or just

call this show about race. I'm Anna Holmes and joining me from the Panoply Studios in Brooklyn are

some of my best friends are black author Tanner Colby. Hello Tanner. Hi Anna. Hi. And also joining

us, reporter and documentary filmmaker Fasilat Aslam. Hi, Fasilat. Hi. I'm very glad to

have you back. And as we said on the B side, I'm going to call you FAS. Yes. As at your request that I don't

mangle the correct pronunciation of your full name. That would be great. Okay. So guys, I don't know if you

heard, but Obama gave a farewell address earlier this week.

He did.

Yes, he did.

And it addressed in which he made a pretty bold assertion that we wanted to dig into today. Now, I've lived long enough to know that race relations are better than they were 10 or 20 or 30 years ago, no matter what some folks say.

You can see it not just in statistics.

You see it in the attitudes of young Americans across the political spectrum.

But we're not where we need to be.

And all of us have more work to do.

Okay. So what I want to know is the first bit of that true. Is it false? Is President Obama just seeing it through the kind of rose-colored glasses that he seemed to wear throughout his presidency?

Is he sending some sort of message to Trump?

Is it both? Is it something else? I mean, he's the first black president of the United States of

America. Like, obviously some shit's changed, you know? That being said, Trump is now about to be the next president of America. And I think for some people,

things really haven't changed in the past couple of decades. And I think the people that I'm

talking about are people who are on the lower rungs of society, the people who are still disenfranchised,

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