The following is a conversation with Ronald Sullivan, a professor at Harvard Law School,

known for taking on difficult and controversial cases.

He was on the head legal defense team for the Patriots football player Aaron Hernandez

in his double murder case.

He represented one of the Gina 6 defendants and never lost the case during his years

in Washington, D.C.'s Public Defender Services Office.

In 2019, Ronald joined the legal defense team of Harvey Weinstein, a film producer facing

multiple charges of rape and other sexual assault.

This decision met with criticism from Harvard University students, including an online

petition by students seeking his removal as faculty dean, a Winter Pous.

Then a letter supporting him signed by 52 Harvard Law School professors appeared in the Boston

Globe on March 8, 2019.

Following this, the Harvard administration succumbed to the pressure of a few Harvard students

and announced that they will not be renewing Ronald Sullivan's dean position.

This created a major backlash in the public discourse over the necessary role of universities

in upholding the principles of law and freedom at the very foundation of the United States.

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As a side note, let me say that the free exchange of difficult ideas is the only mechanism through

which we can make progress.

Truth is not a safe space.

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