going through things that are difficult, you know, build resilience and they teach you important lessons that you can use to adapt to life in general down the road, but that doesn't mean that your entire life needs to be just like pain and suffering to get through it.

You know what I mean? Like you can get to a point where you enjoy yourself.

Let's go. Go. Welcome to Citizen, we've got a special guest today.

Kagan Dunlop, you are a

Instagram influencer, a thought, right?

I think I don't know how to introduce you, so this is whatever. Yeah. Yeah I've just you know I got to

spend too much time on the internet honestly but before we get too deep into all

this stuff tell us stuff. Tell us where you grew up, what made you decide to join the Marine Corps?

So I originally grew up in Maine.

So I was born up in there in the 80s, 86,

and I was there from 86 till 98.

And I stayed there until 98 and we moved down to North Carolina because my one of my parents got a job in North Carolina so we moved down south. They wanted to get away from the winters, stayed North Carolina pretty much until

2014 when I enlisted the Marine Corps. Originally, I actually spent time trying to get into the army for about six years before I tried getting into the Marine Corps, but I couldn't get the waivers because it was during the, what was it called? The sequestration, I think it was called.

And during that period of time, obviously,

as you know, there was a big drawdown in troops.

They're forcing a lot of people out. So it was hard to get the waivers that you needed to get in a lot of times back then, even though there were people that were in that probably shouldn't have been, you know what I mean?

Like I'm sure everybody's right into like people that maybe

would never have gotten waivers to get in

because of whatever their background was.

But I couldn't get in for a long time. I tried getting into the Army,

tried to get into the National Guard. And eventually, after about six years of trying

relentlessly to get into one of those two branches I decided to go over to the

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