For Enzo countermeasures are very common. This is a serious,

premeditated murder.

And they had made mention of a dead body they had located in Ventura County

and this body was burned.

If they had built a makeshift electric chair, it's all premeditated.

In my experience, somebody doesn't go from zero to this kind of behavior

in no time.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente,

retired FBI profiler former New York City prosecutor and red producer

for CBS's criminal minds. And with me today, electronically is.

Hi, everybody. It's francey hates former state and federal prosecutor Jim.

I'm on XG production East Coast assignment today,

but that never stops me from calling in and being a bit of a pain to you if I may say so.

Yeah, it seems like that's your entire motivation in life, isn't it?

And speaking of that, we also have our very favorite guest host.

Moreen O'Connell retired FBI agent of 25 years and I too love to harass Jim Clemente.

Isn't that special?

But today in the studio, we also have a very special return guest.

Larry Grady O'Hothner, please 29 years, retired.

Awesome. Well, thank you for coming back, Larry.

Larry, we know that you worked as a detective at the Hawthorne Police Department

outside of the city of Los Angeles.

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