This is Jocco Podcast number 169.

With Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening, echo.

Good evening.

And tonight we have a return guest by the name of Jody Middick.

So before listening to this podcast, if you have not listened to podcast 24, 25, and

111, then go back and listen to those podcasts first so that you can hear about Jody's

life growing up, joining the Canadian Army, his trials and tribulations in the Canadian

Army, his successes and his failures, how he eventually became a sniper, served overseas,

eventually in Afghanistan, where he was wounded badly, lost both of his legs, but Drove

on became a successful politician in the city of Ottawa and was carrying on with his life.

But things were not as pretty on the inside as they might have appeared on the outside.

When Jody came back on for podcast 111, I had a suspicion that things might not be going

that great, there seemed to be something lurking just beneath the surface and for whatever

reason.

And there is no good reason that I can give.

I didn't say anything.

And I actually talked to a couple of my buddies who thought the same thing, who said, man,

Jody didn't quite sound right on that.

And it was the same thing that I thought it was the same thing that I could sense in my

gut and my gut was right.

There was more going on behind the scenes and Jody is back today to explain where he's

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