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The Alisa Childers Podcast

#168 What are the Earliest Creeds in Christian History? With Gary Habermas

The Alisa Childers Podcast

Alisa Childers

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.95.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This is the episode I’ve wanted to record since starting my podcast in 2017! When we talk about “historic Christianity,” what do we mean? Was early Christianity so theologically diverse that we can’t know what the earliest Christians believed? Historian and New Testament scholar Dr. Gary Habermas joins me to talk about the earliest Christian creeds that predate the New Testament by decades. We discuss the gospel as understood in the first century, as well as the deity of Jesus’ being affirmed by the earliest followers of Christ. 

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Bacom cites this, but it's not his.

0:02.7

He got it from somebody else.

0:04.8

And the statement is this, and it's incredible.

0:08.4

It is probably one of the most show-stopping quotations that anybody could make about the New Testament.

0:14.5

Here's the sentence.

0:15.8

The earliest Christology is the highest Christology.

0:26.5

The earliest Christology is the highest Christology. The earliest Christology is the highest Christology. And you want to say,

0:32.4

oh, no way, no way. Have you read John? Have you read the Johannine prologue of the first 18 verses where Jesus called God twice? I don't think so. That's the highest one. Well, Oscar Coleman and others say,

0:39.6

yeah, calling Jesus God probably is not the highest claim in the New Testament for deity,

0:46.3

calling him Lord is. And Lord, Coleman argued, is the main one, because the translation of the Greek is when you go back and look at the

1:00.8

text that they cite in the Old Testament, it's Jehovah. So Jehovah and the Old Testament, the

1:06.9

holiest name for God, is translated Lord in the New Testament.

1:46.7

Hey friends, welcome to the Elisa Childers podcast where we equip Christians to identify the claims of historic Christianity, discern its counterfeits, and proclaim the gospel with clarity, kindness, and truth. I am so excited to bring you today's episode about early creeds of Christianity. So you might be thinking, what relevance does this have to my life as a Christian? Well, maybe you've heard a

1:51.6

skeptic say, hey, you know, the earliest Christians didn't even have a Bible. Therefore, we can't

1:57.4

possibly know what they all agreed about regarding what it meant to follow

2:02.2

Jesus or what it meant to be a Christian.

2:04.4

You might have heard people say, well, maybe the Bible, the New Testament in particular,

2:09.4

was just written by the theological winners of certain theological debates and therefore

2:15.0

silencing the opposition with what was essentially canonized

2:18.2

in the New Testament.

2:19.9

So these are tough things to address, especially when we realized that the New Testament books

2:25.9

weren't written right away.

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