During that week, what God did for me was, I'm telling you, he held up the sun.

The days were years.

What he did in my heart was supernatural in that I felt God's nearness so close, which I think only suffering can do for you.

I felt his nearness in a tangible way, like his breath on my neck kind of.

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Elisa, there are not many people that you come into contact with that have this

gifting, this ability to hold the grittiness of their life and like just the depth of

aches and pains met with humor and a joy and a lightness about them. But that's why I'm so excited

about this guest that we have today. Jamie, thank you for joining us on God Here's Her.

I'm so happy to be here. If you guys could kind of follow me around and compliment me just

every day with what you just said. That was sweet.

Well, so then tell me, where are you coming from? Where do you live right now?

I'm in Kansas City. Oh, nice. I love Kansas City. Are you originally from Kansas City?

I'm from Texas. I'm from the lush tropics of Amarillo right there in the hand handle. It's one that you drive through and you're like,

who lives here? I did growing up and very flat. So when my dad decided to go to law school really late

in life, he got accepted at UMKC and so moved the whole family to Kansas City and and you've been there

and I've been there and I love it I can't leave you've got like four kids and a husband but as I've read

a little bit of your story it started out a little bumpy like maybe more than a little bumpy like

ditches a big big ditch, yes.

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